Welcome to Unspeakable, a true crime podcast where I tell stories of real crimes with real victims,

whose cases are so shocking that many are left wondering, how is this even real?

I use my experiences in law enforcement, corrections, and combined with my years as a criminal justice educator, dig deep into complex cases of evil acts.

Some so evil, many feel they are unspeakable.

Warning, unspeakable is intended for mature audiences.

If you are easily offended, then I'm not your girl.

Listening discretion is advised. Hey, y'all. KJ. Here back with a very extra special episode for you today.

I know that you've been listening to the episode about our wonderful elderly couple that was tragically murdered by someone that,

I don't even want to say his name right now, but you've been listening to the episodes.

And so I just really got wrapped up in this one.

And when I tell you wrapped up, what I mean is I looked at the pictures of our victims. something just tugged at me about Granza.

I liked her.

I liked her spirit.

I liked her essence.

I liked everything that I was learning about both of them as people in our society and just great contributors to the world.

And so after watching a video that I

saw online, I said, you know what, I want to talk. I want to talk to Granz's family. I want to,

I want to connect with them and see what they have to say. And if I'm missing something or if

there's more that I should know. And I had the absolute privilege and pleasure of getting in contact with Granz's daughter,

who was so wonderful and kind and said,

well, maybe you should speak with my daughter.

She's been the one that's really been the forefront of our family during this entire experience.

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