Hi, I'm Grant Wall, and welcome to the Planet Football Podcast, where I go in-depth with the most intriguing

people in the world soccer.

Just a quick reminder, it's a huge help if you subscribe rate and review the podcast. This week I'm on a

work trip in Iceland so I'm going to share part two of a two-part podcast from a recent

panel I moderated at Duke University on the struggle for equality in global women's soccer.

It's a terrific panel. UK-based Gene Williams is one of the world's leading scholars on women's soccer and a professor at the University of Wolverhampton.

She's on Twitter at Jean M Williams.

Shereen Ahmed is a Toronto-based writer and activist whose work includes the Burn It All Down podcast and the blog

Tales from a hijab footballer. She's on Twitter at underscoreopmed, underscore.

And Gwendlin Oxenham, a former Duke Soccer player,

is the author of two books, including Under the Lights

and In the Dark, Untold Stories of Women's Soccer.

She's on Twitter at Gwen Oxenham.

This panel discussion focuses on global soccer and came after a different panel

focusing on US soccer that include former. women's national team captain,

Carla Overbeck, North Carolina coach, and some Dorrance, and agent Dan Levy.

We joined part two of our discussion with Gwendlin-Oxenham.

The U.S. State Department sent me to Turkmeniston and that was an experience because it's very removed from Western culture.

Like there are not any McDonald's there, you know,

it's, and they had me go as the US like sports expert and it was ahead of the

Asian cup in Turkmenistan they're not so great at sports and they were like

wanting to bring in a US soccer expert and the

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