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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Part 2: Sony Film CEO on Marvel’s Decline and Hollywood’s Originality Crisis

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 February 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Live from the American Film Institute, Matt is joined by Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw and the CEO of Sony Film Tom Rothman to discuss the future of the Spider Man franchise, Marvel’s recent struggles, if movie stars should make movies for streamers, and the biggest crisis facing the movie industry right now.  Matt finishes the show with a prediction about who will be cast as the next James Bond. Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Lucas Shaw, Tom Rothman Producers: Craig Horlbeck, Jessie Lopez, and Jon Jones Theme Song: Devon Renaldo AVATAR: FIRE AND ASH. FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode of The Town is presented by 20th century studios, Avatar, Fire, and Ash.

0:10.6

Don't Miss the movie Critics Are Raving is epic and exciting and gorgeous and heartbreaking,

0:15.5

and stands as one of the greatest films ever made.

0:18.3

It's got incredible visuals, jaw-dropping action, and a cinematic achievement.

0:22.6

Avatar, Fire, and Ash, now playing in theaters, and now nominated for the Academy Awards for best visual effects and best costume design.

0:30.6

It is Tuesday, February 24th. Today's part two of Tom Rothben, head of the Sony movie studio.

0:37.8

We reported it live at AFI with me and Lucas Shaw and Tom's very cool Columbia

0:42.0

picture with bomber jacket.

0:43.4

That is definitely not for sale, he told me.

0:46.3

If you haven't heard part one, go do that first.

0:48.0

Today, it's the future of the Spider-Man franchise.

0:50.8

Marvel's recent struggles.

0:52.4

If movie stars should make movies for streamers and the biggest crisis facing the movie industry right now. He's recent struggles, if movie stars should make movies for streamers, and the

0:55.2

biggest crisis facing the movie industry right now. He's definitely got opinions. From The Ringar and Puck,

1:00.2

I'm Matt Bellany and this is The Town. Where are we in the Spider-Man franchise? Not at the

1:10.3

animated Spider-Verse. Is the larger Spider-Verse dead? Are you going to go back to those at some point? Yes. You will. Yes. But it'll be a fresh reboot. Yes. New people. Okay. Yes. And how is the partnership with Marvel going? It's great. Because that was a big moment. It was sort of a tail between the legs moment to have to go to Disney and say, listen,

1:31.2

we kind of ran this into the ground. We need you to bring this back.

1:35.9

You know, speaking of that, putting that question that way, we have a character.

1:39.5

It's called Mr. Negativity. You would be really good for him.

1:42.7

You should come and audition.

1:45.3

Studios don't typically say,

1:47.2

here's our number one franchise.

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