there's personal reward too it doesn't always have to be financial although the financial is

fantastic as well but i'm here to tell you after 20 years of this

and having some experience uh actually a lot of experience i'm not going to be

humble about it i guess i try to be humble about it all I guess. I try to be humble about it.

All the different cases we've worked criminally.

I've had to hand it so many cases.

You learn certain things and patterns chasing criminals.

You develop a criminal thought process, a criminal mind.

Now, I think I was born with a criminal mind.

I really do.

I've seen all the angles almost since I was a young buck.

Some people would say I am a criminal.

Of course, real quick, a sidebar.

That's thrown around a lot. You know, a lot of the people that Justice Department goes after it's like, if they're

calling you a criminal, it's a thin line between whether you're

really a criminal or whether you can wear that as a badge of courage because these people

are fucking criminals i mean they are top-notch criminals most of them that's why i don't feel

sorry if they get frog marched out of the fucking buildings you've harmed a lot of people you've fucked a lot of people over and you've ignored a lot of

other transgressions by rich people because you didn't have the guts to go after them or the

juice so there's different levels of criminality

I think when the Justice Department comes after you for the most part

if you really haven't done anything bad

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