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Thomas Paine Podcast

Part 2 -- PAINE Calls FBI Site Commander for WACO Siege & OK City Bombing and All Holy Hell Breaks Open + Bill Cooper on OKL City

Thomas Paine Podcast

mike moore

Daily News, Philosophy, News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2023

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Part 2 -- PAINE Calls FBI Site Commander for WACO Siege & OK City Bombing and All Holy Hell Breaks Open + Bill Cooper on OKL City
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0:00.0

Yes, thank you, Bonnie. We're going to go now to Robert Klotz, who used to be in special

0:06.4

operations for the DC police. He ran the helicopter squad, the bomb squad, and the presidential

0:11.6

security unit. Now, Mr. Klotz, we are all watching this. We heard that this is a non-lethal

0:16.9

form of tear gas. And the big question at the moment is, did the gas ignite this fire

0:23.5

or is there something else that's responsible for it?

0:26.1

Well, I can't say with certainty that it did not. There are certain types of tear gas

0:34.2

that when you, the methodology that you use can ignite a spark or create a fire.

0:40.3

Now, we know this is C-S gas, and that it was administered through an M5 dispenser. Tell

0:45.6

us what that means and how that might add to the information.

0:49.3

Okay, an M5 dispenser is merely a larger vehicle for emitting the gas as usually run by a

0:56.8

gas motor, something of that type. If that was on a tank, and it would be...

1:01.1

Let me mention to you, Mr. Klotz, if you were watching, we just saw an explosion that came

1:05.2

from one side of this building. So, obviously, there are things that are igniting even as

1:09.4

we speak. Keep in mind, there's heavy munitions and heavy arms in there.

1:14.2

Right, Mike, thank you.

1:15.2

I understand that part of that building had a lot of munitions in it, and that may be

1:20.2

what you have just been looking at. The rapidity in which that fire took hold and the

1:26.5

rapidity in which it spread seems to indicate to me that there had to be some kind of fluid

1:34.7

or liquid in there. I've been at places where, through the delivery of tear gas, a fire

1:40.9

has broken out.

1:45.2

There are places I'll remember on my life, though some have changed, some forever, not

2:06.9

for better, some have gone, and some remain all these places have their moments.

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