My name is Ian Koss, and what you're listening to is a collection of songs and conversations about every marriage in my family that ended in divorce, which, as of this recording, does not include mine.

Chau Chau Chau wants to sit with me.

You can try.

You can try.

Come on.

My wife's name is Kelsey.

The dog's name is Chacha.

You can do it.

The three of us live in a little house on the edge of Boston.

You got to lay down.

Yeah.

Okay.

When I started this project, a little over a year ago, I made a point of not talking to Kelsey about it.

I would call up my relatives on days when I knew she'd be out of the house,

and then be sure to close out any documents or mixes I was working on before we watched TV together on my computer.

At the time, I told myself that, as a producer... before we watch TV together on my computer. You hear me now? Yeah.

At the time, I told myself that as a producer,

I wanted to make sure I was recording

when I did finally share what I'd learned.

But if I'm honest, I think there was a little shame involved.

Like just to have these questions about myself and my family was a sign that our own

marriage was somehow failing. And at that time, at the time of our wedding, it occurred to me at some

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