I think it's a very important interview and there's a lot to cover and so let's just

do it so thanks for for subscribing to us as usual on Patreon.com slash true punted and

subscribestar.com slash true punter and it goes a long way as I've said before we

we thank you and I appreciate Dan a Golvach for sitting with me for as long as he did and we cover the topics.

There are some things that start here and we do this pain after dark that it has to go out to more people, so I hope folks understand that. Eventually, it has to go out to more people.

The message is too powerful, it's too strong.

So let's get started on this. It's kind of a tough interview. But necessary.

Sometimes we gotta just get to cut it to the bone.

The truth sometimes is tough to a stomach,

but you gotta tell the truth.

We know how bad it is out there.

And there's no pussyfoot around and there's no

dressing it up and pretending that it's anything but the truth and and that's our

one of our missions here so so we're going to try to stay steadfast to it.

And again, we appreciate you guys and your patronage, so we're able to do things like this.

You guys keep me on my toes and it's good. I like the hustle and I like to have

reasons to hustle. Let me introduce you to this gentleman and his family. Son Spencer Goveach, a number of years ago, I think was in 2015 around this time a year it was January 31st I believe so

around this time a year Spencer Govatch waited for a green light at a

Houston intersection, an undocumented Mexican as the newspaper said

undocumented Mexican right? How about illegal alien? Do you ever hear that?

They love dressing this stuff up.

We'll rewrite it for him. This was in Texas Tribune.

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