I agree with you a lot on the whole Trump thing. I don't get it and I agree with you 100

percent but he's is you know Carl was saying to me one day because you know he's the only one

who said what is your choice. Now so I think that that was fair or that he's

like no I don't I'm not agreeing with it I'm not plotting him but he is the one person I mean I don't I didn't hear other people in Congress saying that.

Or other, you know, the president's,

and you know, so there's always kind of this thing where you've got to Bill Gates these

guys in your face at the university and I said no I'm not going to do it.

And I write an exam and write my letter now I shouldn't have to ask them not to do that.

It's wrong. But the thing is that the

part of me goes, well, you know, some people did it because they had to, they like I talked a couple students that I had and they took one or two shots

And then we were talking about it and I said how do you well

You know I don't know if I talked to you about this.

I said, one of them, I said, did he went to his dean?

And said, what is the deal?

Why are you doing?

Well, they're going to take the funding away from school.

He said, yeah, but, yeah, I mean, it was just,

so I was proud at least some of my students,

former students went and advocated for themselves.

Interesting, those same people have said to me

because I was talking about that things I wanted to include in this course.

And they said, oh, Carrie, I think that's really important because,

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