Part 2: China-US War Concerns, Taiwan & the Wuhan Lab with Josh Rogin -- Mo News Conversation

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🗓️ 8 February 2023

⏱️ 50 minutes

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China-US relations are at an all time low and this episode is a deep-dive into how we got here with Washington Post Columnist Josh Rogin. In part two of Jill and Mosh’s conversation with Rogin, we talk about how likely a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan is, how the US might get involved (or not) and where Trump and Biden have done well and failed with Chinese leaders over the last six years. We also discuss some of Rogin’s groundbreaking reporting on Covid, the Wuhan lab and the state of the investigation into the origins of the virus. Rogin has covered China issues for several decades and has a new book out on the topic called “Chaos Under Heaven.” You can catch him on Twitter @joshrogin on all things foreign policy. Separately, he also has an Instagram account @watchtheramen devoted to his love of ramen and watches. This Week’s Sponsors: – Apostrophe - Only $5 For First Derm Visit + Medication Discount: Code: Monews – Athletic Greens – AG1 Powder + 1 year of free Vitamin D & 5 free travel packs – Boll & Branch Bedding & Sheets – 15% Off + Free Shipping | USE CODE: MONEWS – Please remember to subscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. – Mosheh Oinounou (@mosheh) is an Emmy and Murrow award-winning journalist. He has 20 years of experience at networks including Fox News, Bloomberg Television and CBS News, where he was the executive producer of the CBS Evening News and launched the network's 24 hour news channel. He founded the @mosheh Instagram news account in 2020 and the Mo News podcast and newsletter in 2022. Jill Wagner (@jillrwagner) is an Emmy and Murrow award- winning journalist. She's currently the Managing Editor of the Mo News newsletter and previously worked as a reporter for CBS News, Cheddar News, and News 12. She also co-founded the Need2Know newsletter, and has made it a goal to drop a Seinfeld reference into every Mo News podcast. Follow Mo News on all platforms: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mosheh/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mosheh Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MoshehNews Snapchat: https://t.snapchat.com/pO9xpLY9 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/moshehnews TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mosheh

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, it is great to have you back with us on the Monews podcast.
0:07.7	I'm Mo Shuannunu.
0:09.1	The Chinese spy balloon saga last week brought the state of U.S.-China relations to the
0:15.6	front burner for many of us.
0:17.7	And we're always seeking to dive deeper here into the big issues impacting this world
0:23.1	on the Monews podcast.
0:24.9	And so today, Jill and I present the second part of our interview with Josh Rogan.
0:29.8	He's a Washington Post reporter and columnist who has covered Washington and China for years.
0:35.6	He has a book out on China-U.S. relations during the Trump administration called Chaos
0:39.8	Under Heaven.
0:40.8	I'll have a link to it in the show notes.
0:42.5	Highly recommended if you're looking for more context.
0:45.2	You might recognize Rogan for his appearances on television, his columns, or maybe you just
0:50.4	listen to yesterday's podcast Part 1 where we spoke to him about all things the balloon,
0:56.4	TikTok.
0:57.4	I definitely encourage all of you to listen to Part 1 of this conversation.
1:01.2	Today in Part 2, we talked about some of the exclusive reporting he has gotten into the origins
1:06.0	of COVID, the Wuhan lab.
1:08.0	He had some of the first remarkable reporting going back to the U.S. government being concerned
1:12.8	about Wuhan pre-COVID.
1:14.6	We'll also talk today about the likelihood of war over Taiwan.
1:18.6	And then we go a bit big picture into which strategies have worked for Trump and which
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