Parsing Trump’s Ukraine peace plan
The Playbook Podcast
POLITICO
3.9 • 699 Ratings
🗓️ 25 November 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Extra value meals are back. That means 10 tender juicy McNuggets and medium fries and a drink are just $8. |
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| 0:20.3 | Today on the Playbook podcast, breaking this morning, American and Russian officials will meet today to discuss the Ukraine peace plan. |
| 0:28.8 | We have the latest on that. |
| 0:30.8 | Donald Trump heads off for Thanksgiving in Florida with no health care plan on the table. |
| 0:36.1 | And the latest on the retribution efforts against various |
| 0:39.7 | Democrats by Donald Trump's Justice Department. Hello, I'm Jack Blanchard. And I'm Adam Wren. |
| 0:45.7 | It's Tuesday, November 25th. |
| 0:49.0 | Adam, it's great to have you back. How you doing, man? I'm doing great. |
| 0:52.3 | We need to talk about the ongoing peace negotiations |
| 0:54.7 | over Ukraine because the big development that Donald Trump has sent an envoy to Abu Dhabi to meet |
| 1:00.9 | with senior Russian officials to discuss the latest on the Ukraine peace plan. Now, this is a big deal, |
| 1:06.9 | of course, because anyone who's been listening to this podcast and following this closely |
| 1:10.4 | through the past few days will know that this peace plan has sort of moved around a lot. |
| 1:15.4 | Adam, we had the original 28-point plan that Steve Wickoff came up with in collaboration with the Russians, which has been heavily criticized for being too pro-Russian. |
| 1:24.4 | He got revised at the weekend in Geneva, mission led by Marco Rubio, negotiations |
| 1:29.2 | with the Ukraine, and we now have a new peace plan that Kiev likes a lot better. And today, |
| 1:34.9 | the US is going to present that to Russians, and we're going to see how they react. And we're |
| 1:38.2 | going to find out if we're any closer to actually getting a peace deal. One of the interesting |
| 1:42.7 | things about it, Adam, check this out. |
| 1:49.6 | The guy they're sending to deliver the message to the Russians is once again the Army Secretary, |
| 1:55.9 | Dan Driscoll, not Rubio, not Wiccoff, someone who probably a week ago most Americans had even really heard of, has suddenly become one of the key players in this negotiation. |
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