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Parsing Immigration Policy: Inside the Making of U.S. Immigration Law

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News, Politics

4.4652 Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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The Center for Immigration Studies has released a new episode of its podcast featuring CIS experts Andrew “Art” Arthur and George Fishman, who reflect on their time working together on Capitol Hill, including their firsthand experiences on September 11, 2001, and the major immigration legislation that followed. The episode offers a behind-the-scenes look at how […]

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0:00.0

We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked,

0:10.0

and complete the dang fence.

0:13.0

This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill.

0:18.0

Can't stone your bucket where you are. We come from France.

0:21.6

And I am, you know, adamantly again, illegal immigrant.

0:25.6

They're coming in by the thousands.

0:27.6

Just unbelievable.

0:28.6

A wall is an immorality.

0:30.6

Who are you rooting for it?

0:32.6

Those masters of the universe are added again.

0:36.6

They're not sending their best you

0:40.3

maniac you blow it up welcome to parsing immigration policy the podcast of the

0:49.3

Center for Immigration Studies this is Mark McCorrie and executive director of the

0:53.7

center and today we're

0:55.3

going to do something little different. We're going to have two of our veteran analysts, George Fishman

1:02.0

and Art Arthur, talk about the times they worked together on Capitol Hill and what the issues were

1:09.8

and kind of, you know, give a little bit of look behind the

1:13.7

curtain about how the sausage is made to mix the metaphors. And the reason I thought this is a good

1:19.7

idea is because there's sort of a wisecracking buddy movie vibe sometimes between the,

1:25.9

between the two of them. I was going to say Abbott and Costello or Laurel and Hardy, but I don't know if that's

1:31.1

the right thing because I'm not sure which of them is the straight man.

1:35.4

But anyway, all I can say is I'm too old for this.

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