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Parsing Immigration Policy: Influence Campaigns Inside Evangelical Institutions

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News, Politics

4.4652 Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This week’s episode features Megan Basham, culture reporter for The Daily Wire and author of Shepherds for Sale: How evangelical leaders traded the truth for a leftist agenda, to discuss her reporting on how major philanthropic networks, political groups, and federal funding streams have shaped the policy positions of several large evangelical institutions on immigration issues such as […]

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0:00.0

We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked,

0:10.0

and complete the dang fence.

0:13.0

This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill.

0:18.0

Can't stone your bucket where you are. We come from France.

0:21.6

And I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants.

0:25.6

They're coming in by the thousands.

0:27.6

Just unbelievable.

0:28.6

A wall is an immorality.

0:30.6

Who are you rooting for it?

0:32.6

Those masters of the universe are added again.

0:36.6

They're not sending their best. You

0:40.3

maniac! You blow it up! Welcome to parsing immigration policy, the podcast of the Center for

0:49.5

Immigration Studies. My name is Mark Krikorian, executive director of the center. And for this episode,

0:55.8

we're going to be talking with Megan Basham, who's a reporter with the Daily Wire. That's

1:00.6

dailywire.com and has written a lot about evangelical issues. She'll tell us, I think that may

1:07.6

even be her beat, but maybe not. And recently posted something

1:12.0

about that related to the Afghan shooter who killed a National Guard soldier literally just

1:18.6

across the park from CIS's Washington offices. So Megan, thanks for being on the show. And

1:24.7

what was the piece you recently posted on about how the group that

1:29.7

resettled the Afghan Ramanula Lackenwal had some comment right before the shooting that was like

1:36.1

one of the kind of textbook examples of bad timing? Yeah, yeah. Well, thanks for having me, Mark.

1:42.0

So, World Relief is the quote unquote humanitarian arm of the National Association of Evangelicals. That's one of the largest associations of evangelicals in the world. It represents some 46,000 churches, I think about 40 different denominations. So their world relief arm once upon a time was mostly privately funded. It is now

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