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Parsing Immigration Policy: Asylum Reform: Withdraw from the UN Treaty, or Not?

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4.4652 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

This week’s Parsing Immigration Policy podcast features a panel discussion from the third annual conference of the International Network for Immigration Research (INIR), convened recently in Washington. Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of the Center for Immigration Studies, and Yonatan Jakubowicz, Director of the Israeli Immigration Policy Center, offer contrasting perspectives on how to fix the […]

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0:00.0

We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked,

0:10.0

and complete the dang fence.

0:13.0

This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill.

0:18.0

Can't stone your bucket where you are. We come from France.

0:21.6

And I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrant.

0:25.6

They're coming in by the thousands.

0:26.6

Just unbelievable.

0:28.6

A wall is an immorality.

0:30.6

Who are you rooting for it?

0:32.6

Those masters of the universe are added again.

0:36.6

They're not sending their best you

0:40.3

maniac you blow it up welcome to parsing immigration policy the podcast of the

0:49.1

Center for Immigration Studies my name is Mark McCororian executive director of the

0:53.8

center this week what we're going to do is offer a

0:58.0

part of a presentation from a recent conference that we held in Washington,

1:03.0

or we co-sponsored.

1:05.0

It was the annual conference of the International Network for Immigration Research,

1:10.0

INIR, which is a network, as it suggests,

1:14.6

of think tanks, basically realist think tanks on immigration. We have partners in Paris and

1:21.5

Budapest in Jerusalem, as well as here in Washington. And the panel that we're going to present today is me and my counterpart at the Israeli

1:34.7

Immigration Policy Center, Yonotan Yucubowitz.

1:37.9

And what we're not really arguing about, but to have two slightly different takes on, is

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