Parloff and Buchman on the Proud Boys Trial
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 27 April 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
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The Proud Boys trial has gone to the jury. It is the longest Jan. 6 case to date and the third case to involve seditious conspiracy charges against senior Proud Boys and folks who ended up being the pointy end of the spear on Jan. 6, 2021. Two reporters have sat through the entire case: Lawfare Senior Editor Roger Parloff, and Brandi Buchman, who covered the case for the emptywheel site. Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with them to go over the trial, what case the government presented against Enrique Tarrio and his colleagues, the defenses, the holes in the case, and what we can reasonably expect from the jury.
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| 0:29.0 | You know, we sort of learned how in the moment when it came down to it, |
| 0:39.0 | they all had, according to the government, a mutual understanding that they were going to do whatever it took, |
| 0:46.0 | whatever was necessary, any means necessary, to stop the certification or disrupt proceedings |
| 0:52.0 | so that they could keep their preferred presidential candidate in power. |
| 0:57.0 | And that was the, you know, the story that I think the government was able to tell. |
| 1:03.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast April 27th, 2023. |
| 1:11.0 | The Proud Boys trial has gone to the jury. |
| 1:16.0 | It is the longest January 6th case to date. |
| 1:20.0 | It is the third case to involve seditious conspiracy charges against senior Proud Boys. |
| 1:26.0 | And folks who ended up being the pointy end of the spear on January 6th, 2021. |
| 1:36.0 | Only two reporters have sat through the entire case. |
| 1:40.0 | They are LawFair's own Roger Parloff and Brandy Buckman who covered the case for the empty wheel site. |
| 1:49.0 | We cover a lot of ground in this conversation because we covered a lot of ground over 62 days of trial. |
| 1:59.0 | They both joined me in the virtual jungle studio to go over it all. |
| 2:04.0 | What case did the government present against Enrique Tario and his colleagues? |
| 2:11.0 | What were the defenses? What are the holes in the case? |
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