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The Times Tech Podcast

Parler's George Farmer: "Hate speech is subjective"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2022

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on George Farmer, chief executive Parler, to talk about how he started there (5:40), growing up in London (9:15), backing Brexit (14:40), getting married at Eric Trump’s winery (16:05), his plans for Parler (17:05), what’s the problem with social media (19:00), the echo chamber (23:55), how Parler moderates content (30:25), defining hate speech (32:20), the right’s victim mentality (37:40), traditional versus social media (40:05), the problem with Section 230 (45:35), diversifying (51:20), the luxury of being small (56:50), and Trump’s new social media app (59:20).


Want to hear our interview with Parler's founder? It's here:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parlers-john-matze-hate-speech-is-free-speech/id1233991021?i=1000494947820



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0:00.0

Yo! Technology. What is it all about?

0:04.5

People are allowed to be offensive.

0:06.3

Speech naturally offends. This is the whole point.

0:09.5

I have to be able to say things which offend other people.

0:12.4

There isn't a world where there's safe speech. It just doesn't exist.

0:14.9

It's a meaningless term. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.

0:36.8

This week, we take you to Nashville.

0:42.2

Nashville, I hear you saying?

0:43.8

Yes, Nashville, because that is where George Farmer lives.

0:48.8

And George is the CEO of a little social media startup called Parlor.

0:55.3

Now, you may remember about a year and a half ago, we had on John Mates, who was the founder of Parlor.

1:00.4

And Parlor, of course, is this, you know, social media, you know, micro-blogging site.

1:05.7

Kind of think of it as Twitter, but for conservatives and kind of extreme right folks.

1:12.6

And John and I had a very spirited discussion about the company, free speech, cancel culture, all of it.

1:17.6

And what happened was a few months after that interview, January 6th happened.

1:22.6

And Parlor was de-platformed.

1:24.6

It was kicked out of the App Store.

1:26.6

AWS basically canceled their contracts so they didn't have any servers to run on.

1:31.6

Parlor went poof and Mates was fired.

1:34.8

Now Farmer, who is from the UK, took over as CEO last year.

1:40.0

And this month, he's raised $20 bucks to help kind of rebuild the company and really

1:45.5

bring it back from the ashes, the Phoenix Rising, et cetera.

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