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Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore

Paris Lees’ inspiring journey to become the first trans woman in Vogue

Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore

Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore || JOE Media

Society & Culture

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 16 January 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Even as a young child, Paris Lees knew that she didn’t feel right in her body. In a bold and revealing interview, Paris takes James O’Brien on a journey from experimenting with tights and make-up, a reckless adolescence selling sex and spending time in prison, to becoming the first trans woman to feature in Vogue.

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0:20.0

You're listening to Unfiltered with James O'Brien, brought to you by Joe.

0:24.0

Hello, welcome to the very latest Unfiltered, which is arguably the most important one so far, because as I'm sure you've noticed,

0:37.5

transgender issues have assumed a new prominence in the British media that is rather hard to understand my own theory sadly is that as a former tabloid show business journalist I think I speak the lingo

0:50.9

They've become the section of society that it's okay to criticize, lamp, mock, denigrate,

0:59.6

undermine and even accused of somehow being fraudulent in this case gender in previous generations it would be sexuality.

1:09.0

So you're about to meet Paris Lees who's probably the most prominent transgender person in the country.

1:14.8

She's certainly one of the most articulate and outspoken, but the whole point of this, and I hope

1:19.2

it works, I've only met her once before, is to introduce you to a trans person, because you've

1:26.8

probably never met one before.

1:28.4

If you have, I apologize.

1:29.6

If you haven't, well, see how we get on.

1:34.0

We didn't know when we set this up.

1:37.0

We didn't know when we set this up that by the time you sat here you would have become the first

1:45.7

transgender person to feature on the front cover of Vogue magazine.

1:48.6

Well I knew that I was going to be in Vogue.

1:52.0

On Vogue, not just in vogue.

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