How much more can I, like, is there really a lot more I can change from them or do they need to learn it on their own?

If I've done what I've kind of done.

But internally, like, are they what they are?

Drop it like a high.

Drop it like a high.

Natalie, what do I do?

I hope it's giddy-gitty.

We were talking upstairs and I just, this podcast was completely started.

By parenting?

About two.

Everything we ever done was about two friends hanging out and telling the truth and, like, talking about topics of life that are relatable to women, mothers, wives, sisters, aunts, like just being a woman.

Sisters and a brother. That's what the mom. That's what the mom choose started as. That's what our

podcast is. It's a conversation between two friends unfiltered. So sometimes it's funny before we get

to the podcast studio, the two of us will sit upstairs and talk to each other for fucking four

hours. I know.

And then realize that that's exactly what we should be talking about on the podcast. So sometimes

we have to stop ourselves. I, it's so weird because all you have is like in parenting. So you have

hindsight. So you have what you thought was hard, isn't hard because your new hard is harder than your old hard,

but your heart is hard. And also, you kids are like a social experiment, so you roll the dice,

and at any moment they can decide to roll a different way and have a different story, a different

narrative, for good or worse, for good or bad.

So when you look at parenting, you're kind of like there's no, ah, moment where you're like, wow, there's no deep breath moment.

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