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Hi this is Jane Garvey and welcome to the woman's app Parenting

podcast which this week is about breasts and about how we talk specifically

about how we talk to children about breasts as they develop and it actually became a really interesting

conversation about the position of breasts in British public life and there's

additional material at the end so I hope you can stay with us, loads of emails and tweets from you, which is great.

And my guests on the subject were Ruby Stevenson from Brooke, which is the sexual health and well-being

charity for young people, and former teacher Emma Pickett the author of the breast book.

So I mentioned that Britain has always been a bit odd about breasts in a kind of cartoonish

way and that page 3 of course was a thing until very recently so

lots of mixed messages given out and this is where we started the conversation with Emma.

We're in a real muddle in the UK when it comes to talking about breasts.

When we talk to young people about breasts we give this message that it's about sexualisation

and attracting often the opposite sex, but at the same time it's a bit secret as well.

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