Hello, welcome to the Verge cast. You might notice that you can't see us. That is by design.

We are hideous. Yeah, we're terrible, mutant, the people. No, it's just, I think it should

be clear by now we're throwing this together. But hello, welcome to the Verge cast. It is

actually a Verge cast. We are bringing back the Verge cast. We're going to have another

one next week. I draw on our producer. I've never seen anyone look more trouble. He's texting

someone right now letting them know the good news. But it's back. The Verge cast is back. We are in

the deepest portion of the tech news cycle. Our show is about technology news and culture and

lifestyles. It's about Chris just up and pouring a coke right into his laptop before the show begins.

I can't identify ourselves. Yeah, I can see us. Hello. Yes. Yes. Hello. This is Neil Apatel. I am

Deeter Bone. And I am Chris Siggler. Noted Watch Expert. Chris Siggler. Noted Watch Expert.

So let's just get into it. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to, how's it going over

there, John? We're still good. Okay. We have a pile of cables and equipment on the table. You know,

there's a, John literally has a guitar center. There's like a four-tracker quarter. There's like a

zoom mickey thing. He has a Fuji, a Fuji X100 S for some reason. I mean, it's just, there's a lot going

there. There's so many cables here that are not plugged into anything. I'm very, I'm proud of you.

We're about to record some green day covers. I'm going to buy a baringer mixer. It's going to be great.

This is like the old days of podcast. Actually, we've been using the word dukey a lot today. That's

really good point for everyone actually. Okay, let's just get into it. There's a lot to talk about.

Yes. So, Deeter, you and I, we were in California until last night, very late last night, we both landed

around like midnight one in the morning. Apple event, big deal Apple event. They called it historic.

There's a ton of hype. They held it at the Flint Center, which is where Apple or Steve jobs

under the first Mac, the iMac, just tons and tons of history in this building. Apple leaned

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