when Greens are ready to shut down nuclear, clean power in Germany,

that provides a significant amount of electricity and heating for Germany.

That's the equivalent of jumping off the top of a hundred-story building

and think you're flying for 99 floors.

And then the absence of a clear, clean alternative becomes really important. Regardless of how or when the Russia Ukraine War ends is it possible to see the very early signs of a new geopolitical order taking

shape right now?

There are certainly some surprises, especially as it relates to Germany's response to the

crisis and the overall scale of the

economic response. Are there other new trends or global power centers we should be

keeping an eye on? It's a question I'll be asking a number of our guests going forward.

This week I sat down with Thomas Friedman, the Pulitzer Prize-winning foreign affairs columnist

for the New York Times.

Tom's also a best-selling author of many books beginning with from Beirut to Jerusalem the

world is flat the Lexus and the olive tree thank you for being late just to name a

few I first got to know Tom back in 2003 and 2004 in Iraq when he was

traveling to Baghdad and in the broader region for the times. We've stayed in

touch over the years. We disagree on many things, namely some of his prescriptions for dealing with climate.

And yet I've also shared much of his enthusiasm for other developments in the world,

namely the Abraham Accords and massive changes occurring

right before our eyes in Israeli-Arab relations. Of course, all the promise of the warming of relations in the Middle East must be balanced

with the grim news of new terror attacks this week in Israel.

We don't discuss the new wave of violence in Israel in this episode, but we are monitoring

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