I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex, and dating. Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast that is by for and

above all about the system. Here at Love to See It, we love and respect the system and

one thing we would never ever do is circumvent it. Ever, ever. We love the system unless we

made a mistake and then we would atone for our sins. For the rest of our life as we should

because nothing is more important than the system. And here to discuss the system and

the various violations to it that we witnessed this week in Paradise is Olivia Kramer.

The VP of Television for Amy and Dan Sherman Paladino's production company. She also used

to work with Natasha at HBO, so a little bit of a of a Paradise insider here. Welcome,

Olivia. Thank you. I'm thrilled to be here on our

lifetime guys. I'm so excited. We're so excited and there is a lot to get into. So I feel

like we should just dive right in. Let's do it. Starting with Lil Jon giving us a little recap

of how we got to this point with Ivan. What's going on with Ivan? That guy says a little

sneaky bitch bag. And what's about to happen with Aaron? Hey, Ivan, quick word, bro.

What's up? Come over here. I support Lil Jon just like remaining our steadfast, you

know, voice of God throughout this journey for seasons to come 1000% highlight of the season

for me. And of course he has to play up Ivan's presence. Ivan is in a pickle right now because

we left him on the beach with Aaron in his face being like, why is your lip clivering

bro? It looks pathetic. And what's going to happen? I was just like, can we move on?

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