I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome back to the beaches of Paradise, which are just growing more hellish by the hour

from Brendan and Piper to Chris and Atlanta. The week's two episodes were just like a

non-stop trash fire. I mean, the beach is just a blaze with drama, the flames of betrayal

are licking at our feet and the smoke of the very wrong reasons is filling up our lungs,

like we're currently choking. With BIP on the precipice of full collapse into the sea,

we are joined by two very special guests who, yes, did the hard work of watching all

four hours of content this week. Heroes, heroes, Aaron Dark, friend of the pod and who

any Canadian listeners can catch on moonshine on CBC starting September 14th and Dan Radcliffe

who you can see along with Aaron on Miracle Workers on TBS.

Hello. Thank you for having us. Thank you for having us for this.

This is such a treat. I've been wanting to have both of you on together forever, so this

is so fun. Although I am again, sorry, but also not sorry. Thank you, and we're sorry.

You're welcome for assigning you four hours of just brutal viewing. There's still a lot

of loose ends to be tied up somehow, despite everything that happens in this four hours.

But let's start with a bit of drama that I had basically forgotten even happened by the

end, which is Kendall, Joe's ex, Enteradise, and grabbing Joe for a conversation, leaving

Serena P. his new love interest, feeling very insecure about whether Kendall is here to

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