I actually had an argument with Greg during this portion of the show about whether it's too private

to kiss your girlfriend's shoulder and public because I feel like Dylan was doing that so much

this episode. I'm also during the reunion show. I'm like, that's intimate. To me, that's like a

bedroom thing. Like, I don't need to see you like, mowling your partner's body, you know? Like,

keep it to the, keep it to the face area. I'm very, I'm very prudent. How do you feel about the neck?

No, that's not for public. That's like, that's a pre-sex kiss. Oh my god.

Welcome to Here to Make Friends, a half-post podcast about the Bachelor franchise where we lovingly

snark on the Bachelor and Bachelor adjacent shows. Whether you love the Bachelor or love to hate it,

we're here to break down every single delicious moment with you. I'm Emma Gray and I'm Claire Fallon.

Emma, welcome back. Thank you, Claire. I flew all the way back from LA just for this. Emma changed

her flight so that we would be less late on this recap, which I know is cold comfort, but like, we're here

and we're prepared and we come coffee. We have coffee and we have three hours of Bachelor and

Paradise wrap up to talk about. So we're feeling great. Yeah, feeling really, really fresh.

But before we get started, we're going to be in Chicago next week for another live show. We're so

excited. Unfortunately, we did sell out, but all of our live shows will be released as podcast episodes.

The Philly show will be released next week and then we'll kind of go from there. And remember to

stay tuned for more upcoming live event dates. We're hoping to squeeze some more in before the

holidays and before my due date. More importantly, more importantly, you have a child. Exactly.

But this, so this is going to be probably my last like pre-meternity leave recap.

Oh my god. This is a contemporary season. This is really upsetting. Everything's going to change

when I come back. I'm going to be like as a mother of a child. As the mother of a son, I feel

differently about this now. All right. Let's dive in. I thought that this show would be two hours long.

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