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So you may know the answer to this. I don't know. I should say I'm not sure when it is that we

begin lying to ourselves. I think it's probably earlier than we imagine. And again,

some of you may know the answer to this. I don't know when we stop lying to ourselves. It may

coincide with our breathing. You know, it's like when we stop breathing, we finally stop lying to

ourselves. And you know, it doesn't take long. I mean, by the time you're middle school or high

school, we get pretty good at catching other people when they're lying. But we're not so good at

catching ourselves when we're lying, not lying to other people. We're not so good at catching

ourselves lying when we're lying to ourselves. Now, lying to others and please don't misunderstand

in this. Lying to others is somewhat understandable. It's not excusable, but at least it's understandable

because you know, people suddenly they just tell a lie to get out of a pinch or to, you know,

save their self-esteem or their reputation. And there's sometimes it seems like there's some

short-term gain by lying. There's not long-term gain, generally speaking. And so, you know,

lying is inexcusable, but at least it's understandable. But lying to ourselves, lying to ourselves,

lying to ourselves kind of makes me believe in total depravity because it's totally ridiculous and

it's confusing. Lying to ourselves, how many selves do we have? I mean, who's lying to who?

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