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Real Dictators

Papa Doc Part 2: Haiti’s Dictator vs JFK

Real Dictators

NOISER

History, Fiction, Drama

4.78.8K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Haitian dictator “Papa Doc” Duvalier crushes an attempted coup without mercy. Spooked by this near miss, Duvalier forms his own private militia called the Tonton Macoute. They take their name from a terrifying bogeyman of Haitian mythology. As the horrors of the regime become impossible to ignore, President Kennedy decides to lay down a marker. For ad-free listening, exclusive content and early access to new episodes, join Noiser+. Now available for Apple and Android users. Click the Noiser+ banner on Apple or go to noiser.com/subscriptions to get started with a 7-day free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I think it becomes paranoid about everything and everyone.

0:06.0

And the Jivelli regime, like many other Haitian regimes, was brutal.

0:11.0

But Jivelli pushed it to an extreme.

0:14.0

Either you were completely for him or you or against him.

0:18.0

You can remain neutral.

0:20.0

He already saw enemies everywhere.

0:22.0

Now he had justification for seeing enemies everywhere

0:24.0

because the fact that he had their enemies everywhere.

0:26.0

He felt extremely vulnerable

0:28.0

and he felt he was in need of a petroleum guard, really.

0:31.0

And that's where the Tonton Macoo came from.

0:34.0

There were murderers, thieves, people who were serving time.

0:38.0

And there were recruited from there and given weapons and a blank check

0:43.0

to do whatever the value asked them to do.

0:45.0

If your president is in some sense synonymous with this supernatural taker of lives,

0:51.0

then he is not to be messed with and Jivelli would have relished that.

0:55.0

D'Evalier thought of himself as a little guard

0:58.0

and as a little guard who would rule Haiti in his own way.

1:04.0

We saw a ruthless man exercising power only 800 miles from the US shores.

1:15.0

A yacht makes its way through the choppy waters of Porto-Pranse Bay,

1:19.0

45 miles off the coast of the Caribbean nation of Haiti.

1:24.0

On board are eight men, five Haitians, three Americans.

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