They're, it's treasonous. They're traitors. Can we like, why? I don't hear more. They're traitors.

I'm, we're called traitors like literally every day, Alex and I are. I'm like, what did I do?

Again, I'm not a traitor. Okay, him, but what, leave me out.

We got to address the suburban women problem because it's real.

Welcome to the suburban women problem, a podcast for red, wine, and blue.

Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I'm Rachel Vindman. I'm Amanda Weinstein. I'm Jasmine Clark. And you are listening to the Suburban Women Problem. This week, we're doing something a little different for us, a crossover episode with another podcast, Pantsuit Politics. I chatted with Sarah and Beth about lots of things. We talked about everything from America first and changing your political party and maybe even your views a little bit.

And of course, I also talk to Sarah and Beth about Ukraine.

You know, the situation there continues to deteriorate.

We record our pollicast a little early, and this is a very fluid situation.

So all I can say is I haven't had very much sleep.

And my heart is just so sad for not only for democracy, but actually also for humanity and for the Russian people

and the Ukrainian people because they're both really hurting and they're all victims of Vladimir

Putin. Actually, I feel like the whole world is victims of Vladimir Putin at this point.

To that, I'd like to ask you guys, what did you think when President

Biden addressed the nation? And he specifically pointed out that, you know, he knew it was going to be

hard, but he was going to do everything in his power to make sure that it wasn't too hard. And it just

kind of, you know, I thought, wow, my grandparents

never would have really complained about the price that they had to pay for freedom.

What do you think about that, Jasmine? I think, number one, I want to just say that in this moment,

I am glad that we have a president that takes the office of the presidency

and the gravity of what's happening. He just takes it seriously. Like, approaching this the way a

president should approach this. A leader should approach this. And he's not being bombastic or trying to be

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