To me, it seemed like a no-brainer because zombies are always a big stories.

You know, it's not like one werewolf or one psycho killer killing teenagers in summer camp.

It's a global issue, so why not write a global book about how we stop it instead of just writing another story about

a small group of people?

This is what I tried to get through in World War Z, is to talk about how everything is

connected and problems that we might not understand will morph into other problems.

Hey. not understand, we'll morph into other problems. Hey, welcome back to the Modern War Institute podcast. I'm John Amble, editorial director at

MWI, and the episode you're about to hear is actually one of the earliest episodes we

recorded for the podcast. Jake Morali sat down for a conversation with Max Brooks. He has been a

longtime member of the MWI team. Currently, he is an MWI senior fellow, and he is the author of a

number of books, including World War Z. In that book, he very cleverly uses a zombie apocalypse

as a sort of stand-in to explore how nations, militaries, and the world collectively

would respond in the event of a massive global threat, like a pandemic, for instance.

We're releasing a version of the episode again right now for a couple of reasons.

First, we are in a pandemic, and we're seeing some of the contrasting ways in which governments

are responding and the challenges of working collaboratively to counter something that can't be confined

inside the borders of individual states. And second, it's Halloween week. So hearing

Max talk about zombies is only fitting. Before we get to the episode, a couple quick notes.

First, if you aren't already subscribed to the MWI podcast,

be sure to do so. You can find it on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, tune in, anywhere you get your podcasts. And second, as always, what you hear in this episode are the views of the

participants and don't represent those of West Point, the Army, or any other agency of the

U.S. government.

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