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It Could Happen Here

Panama 1989 to Venezuela 2026: What History Can Teach Us Pt. 2

It Could Happen Here

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

Politics, Daily News, News, Society & Culture

4.06.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Andrew and James continue their discussion of what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela.

Sources:

https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/omar-torrijos-ousts-arias-panama

Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-Poland

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:06.0

Call Zone Media.

0:10.3

The year was 1968 and a military coup had just rocked the Isthmian country of Panama.

0:17.7

Welcome to It Could Happen here.

0:19.4

I'm Andrew Sage, joined again by...

0:22.6

James, it's me again.

0:24.8

I'm excited to talk about Panama.

0:26.9

Nearly missed your Q.

0:28.9

Yeah, I did.

0:29.6

I was forgotten who I was for a second.

0:33.3

Yeah, and this is the follow-up to last episode on the history of U.S. involvement in Panama.

0:38.9

So you can go back and give that one listen if you haven't already.

0:42.5

But in these times of Trump Row doctrine, I want to take us back to this particular moment in our hemisphere's history to highlight the parallels with today.

0:52.9

In short, what we talked about last time was how Panama became a testing ground for U.S. empire,

0:59.0

long before, during, and after the construction of the Panama Canal.

1:03.4

The U.S. had repeated military interventions justified as protecting transit or American interests,

1:10.1

and Washington ultimately backed Panama's break from

1:13.2

Columbia in 1903, secure canal rights on Washington's terms.

1:18.6

This independence came with, you know, a cost, a caveat, a lopsided treaty that turned

1:24.3

Panama into a U.S. protectorate and granted the U.S. permanent control over the canal zone and the rest of the country, effectively.

1:32.6

The canal's construction itself was an engineering feat built on racial hierarchy,

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