Pamela Rose
Desert Island Discs
BBC
4.3 • 14.3K Ratings
🗓️ 31 May 2015
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Kirsty Young's castaway is Pamela Rose.
Now aged 97, she was a Bletchley Girl who spent her war years working in total secrecy, painstakingly indexing snippets of information that would prove vital to the the war effort. Alan Turing and his fellow cryptanalysts would eventually break the Enigma Code and it's said that this breakthrough shortened the war by two years.
Born into a musical family, she first took to the stage at boarding school. Pamela's lifelong ambition to be an actress was interrupted by the war and the invitation to work at Bletchley. Despite finding the work in the indexing section of Hut 4 something of a disappointment at first, she and her fellow workers still managed to have fun and she met her husband Jim at a hop when he asked her to dance. They married after the war and it wasn't until nearly sixty years later and after Jim's death that she would finally achieve her dream of acting on the West End stage.
Producer: Cathy Drysdale.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Kirstie Young. Thank you for downloading this podcast of Desert Island Disks from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:06.0 | For rights reasons, the music choices are shorter than in the radio broadcast. |
| 0:10.0 | For more information about the program, please visit BBC.co.uk. |
| 0:17.0 | Radio 4. The My castaway this week is Pamela Rose, she was a Bletchley girl. One of the women who spent the |
| 0:41.8 | war years working in total secrecy, painstakingly indexing snippets of information |
| 0:47.5 | that would prove vital to beating the Nazis, a clandestine role that's recently made its way from the historical shadows of Britain's wartime past |
| 0:55.6 | to the megawatt glade of the silver screen in movies like Enigma and The Imitation Game. |
| 1:01.0 | But my guest today has no truck with the glamorizing of her wartime work. The truth is, she says, it was often boring and something of a disappointment to a young woman who herself had early ambitions to be an actress. A half-hearted debutante, |
| 1:15.3 | she abandoned the season to spend time in Paris and Munich, going on to drama school in London later. |
| 1:21.3 | Yet she gave up dreams of her name in lights on Shaftesbury Avenue for the |
| 1:24.9 | indexing section of Hut 4, turning down her first chance to appear in the West End and opting instead |
| 1:31.0 | for the undercover job at Bletchley. She would finally achieve her dream nearly 60 years later, |
| 1:37.0 | making her West End acting debut at the age of 83. |
| 1:41.0 | She says, I think when you're as old as I am, you feel as if you're walking alongside |
| 1:46.6 | yourself, watching yourself with great interest, wondering what you're going to do next. so Pamela Rose at 97 now I wonder what's on your |
| 1:55.8 | to-do list. |
| 1:56.8 | Desert Island is. |
| 1:57.8 | I think. |
| 1:58.8 | Good I'm glad you've made the time. |
| 2:01.4 | Many of us have seen the movies Enigma and The Imitation |
| 2:06.1 | game. Those films about Bletchley Park. How realistic a picture do they paint? |
| 2:11.1 | Myself, I haven't seen them because I'm very blind and I can't see in the |
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