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with the current account switch service. My live stream on February 25th is going to

be with Laura Bricker. One of the hosts of Crime Riders on, I'm very excited to have her

on the live stream. We are discussing her true crime book, Lie After Lie. You don't

have to read the book ahead of time to participate in the live stream, but it might be helpful

because we are going to present it a little bit like a book club. That is Thursday, February

25th. It is at 3 p.m. Eastern. We will be on the Crime Line's Facebook page and get

vocals so you can watch in any spot and the link will be in the show notes. When Pamela

Butler disappeared in February 2009, two persons of interest rose to the top of the list.

But the investigation stalled out until a cold case detective took a look at the file

in 2017 and found that he wasn't setting out to solve one cold case he was going to solve

too. I'm Charlie and welcome to Crime Lines. Welcome to Crime Lines or welcome back. If

you are new, we are talking about the case of Pamela Butler tonight and how her case

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