that what I have learned to teach myself to do since some great losses, not only in experiences,

but in family, that you've got to keep going and you've got to be happy, and you've got to be

so pleased for every minute you have.

Okay, Mia, quick sound check.

Tell me what you had for breakfast today.

Check, check.

I had yogurt, sprinkle with a little bit of maple syrup.

And I had blueberries, hemp seeds, and walnuts.

It's a really good breakfast.

Sounds like a very Mia breakfast.

Yeah.

We're going to talk about Pam today.

Pam's been on the podcast.

Pam Wall has been on the podcast many times before.

And I specifically wanted to have you on the intro, Mia, because we both, Pam occupies a special place in both of our hearts.

And I wanted to ask you what,

why is that? What is it about Pam that makes you feel so close to her? I think to me it is,

she's such an inspiration, but she's also like such a sweetheart. And like, I don't think I've ever met a person that is so much full of love

and positive energy than her. It's like as soon as you think about Pam, you just smile over

their eyes, right? That's really great. And actually, it came up during the interview. This got

pretty emotional because we talked about a lot of the tragedy in her life. And I asked her,

does she have to try to be happy all the time? And she said, no. That's just her, that's just her default. She's just one of those people that is happy all the time. And it's infectious. Like you say, it makes you, just thinking about her, it makes you want to smile. Yeah, but I think also, like, she also is the kind of person that doesn't put up with any crap. Like she's's, I wouldn't say feisty, but, like, she has, like, she's definitely feisty. No, but she has her own person, like, she has the personality. She's not just sweet. She's also, like, has some legit stuff behind it. It's hard to describe, but you know exactly what I mean, right? Yeah, Pam is definitely very feisty.

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