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Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch

Pam Grossman: The Power of the Witch's Cackle

Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch

QCODE Media, Inc.

Comedy

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2026

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Author, podcaster and practicing witch Pam Grossman joins the show for a fascinating conversation about the history of magic, the connection between magic and creativity, and the uses of various spells! Plus, comedy as a form of exorcism. Cackle away! You can catch bonus content now on the Woo Woo YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WooWooPodcast. Follow us on Instagram! @raedratch @irenebremis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Woo Woo With Rachel Dratch, the podcast that explores The Unexplained with Humor and Curiosity.

0:17.6

Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch here with Irene. Bremes, as always. Hi, Irene.

0:24.0

Hello, sweating. Irene, today we have, da-da-da-da-da, our first witch.

0:31.2

Pamela Grossman. Hi, Pam. Hi, it's so nice to be with you this morning.

0:37.9

Well, we're very excited because we haven't had a witch on yet.

0:42.0

And I met you through the coolest of circumstances.

0:46.1

And then I scooped you up to be on the show.

0:50.0

But that was all sort of kismet, too.

0:52.2

But anyway, so as I've mentioned, I'm doing Rocky Horror on Broadway, first preview on

0:59.0

Thursday, March 26th.

1:00.7

Anyway, we had, so our director, Sam Pinkleton is just the coolest, smartest, like, he's a great

1:09.9

combo of, you know, revering theater and all its powers

1:14.6

and all it can do, but he also has a sense of humor about the whole thing, and he's like,

1:19.7

it's just theater, we're just putting on a show. And he balances the two so well. Well,

1:24.4

in his sort of like reverential yet theater campy mentality, he told us that we were going

1:33.0

to have sort of a, I don't know what you would call it, a spell, a blessing, a ceremony led by

1:39.6

Pam Grossman. And so we showed up, you know, after rehearsal, those who wanted to participate, of course I did.

1:48.3

And there we met Pam who did the super cool, I mean, I didn't even know what to expect, but I'll have you talk about it, Pam.

1:55.5

But we did this really cool, like, I don't know, I guess it was about a half hour. Kind of like ceremony, but sort of

2:01.9

sacred honoring of theater. But it wasn't like, I don't know, I think anyone would have gotten

2:08.9

into this. It wasn't like some sort of inaccessible or like, this is too weird. Like, it wasn't

2:15.9

like that at all. So anyway, then afterwards, Pam came up to me, said she listens to the show,

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