He wears Hawaiian shirts and tells the Pentagon how to defend the Republic.

Paul Murlucky on Uncommon Knowledge Now.

Welcome to Uncommon Knowledge, recording today at a Pacific Research event here at the Reagan Library in Seamy Valley, California.

I'm Peter Robinson.

A native of Long Beach, Palmer Lucky was homeschooled by his mother.

He attended Long Beach State and then dropped out to develop a virtual reality company.

In 2014, Mr. Lucky sold that company, Oculus, to Facebook

for $2 billion. He was 21. In 2017, Mr. Lucky founded Anderil. Palmer, thank you for driving

up from El Segundo for us. It was no it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, I took my helicopter

partway, actually, and I had another engagement. Palmer, lucky on 60 minutes just a year ago,

I'm quoting you, Palmer, I've always said that the United States needs to transition from being the

world police to being the world gun store. What do you mean?

Well, there's a lot packed in there. The first one is the United States has a history of fighting

for other countries that maybe aren't very interested in fighting for themselves. And maybe there's times

that we want to go in there for U.S. interests. But generally speaking, it doesn't make sense

for us to send our people to go die for a country or a form of government or anything, you know,

anything that's not directly aligned with U.S. interests if they're not willing to die for themselves.

And I think, for example, you saw our withdrawal from Afghanistan prove this out. You know, anything that's not directly aligned with U.S. interests, if they're not willing to die for themselves. And I think, for example, you saw our withdrawal from Afghanistan prove this out.

You know, the moment that we weren't there, turns out that the people there didn't really care

much to maintain what we had been saying was what they wanted the whole time. And so if you're

the world police, you're out there trying to fight that battle for these countries.

I think we need to transition to a role where we are equipping these countries with what they

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