Nicole, are you saying that we learn more about collective bargaining with private sector unions than we do with public, which is, you know, vast acorns?

We don't, but we don't really need to know anything about private sector bargaining.

I mean, it's between two private parties.

So if you're, you know, assuming there's no federal bailout of the company involved.

It's an auto company and the union, and they both have an incentive to keep the company in business and not to push prices so high that the customer won't buy a product.

Whereas in the public sector, it's two wolves and a sheep negotiating what's for dinner

with the sheep being the taxpayer.

Matt, it's a New Journal podcast.

I'm your host, Charles Fainleman, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and senior editor of City Journal.

Joining me on the panel today are Ily Shapiro, a constitutional law guy at the Manhattan

Institute, John Ketchum, other law guy at the Manhattan Institute, and our guest, Nicole

Julinus, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, colonist, New York Times contributing writer, opinion contributing writer,

and author of Movement,

a history of New York City's fight to reclaim its streets in the car,

which I was told just before this call just won the Gotham Book Prize.

So congratulations, Nicole.

Thank you, Charles.

We're very happy to have you.

I'm going to jump. Are we plugging our books? Because I can plug Lawless. It didn't win any prize yet, but here we go. Ilya is the most aggressive book plugger I have ever seen. I once watched I, like, walk right up to Mike Johnson's speaker of the house and be like, would you like a copy of my book? It was impressive. You should also buy, listeners should also buy Ilius lawless on sale,

all sorts of places. I want to now take us into the news. Over the weekend, New Jersey

transit workers reached a deal to end a multi-day strike that saw transit in the

Garden State shut down and tens of thousands of travelers unable to get into and out of New York

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