All right, three, two, one.

Hi, this is William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates.

On tonight show, I have a very special guest.

His name is Mark Jacobson, J-A-C-O-B-S-O-N, and he has recently published a book, the title of which is Pale Horse Rider.

William Cooper, The Rise of Conspiracy, and the Fall of Trust in America

was published in September of this year, and I just completed reading it.

It's an excellent book, and we're really happy to have him on the show. Mark, are you there?

I'm here.

Awesome. Thanks so much for agreeing to the interview.

If you can, just to get started, can you please tell the audience a little bit about your background

and how you became interested in this subject?

Well, I'm a New Yorker. I've born here. I live here.

You've maybe able to tell it my voice, but that was not too bad.

And, well, I mean, my interest, I've been a general interest,

but I don't know if I've been to a call it, but I've been a magazine writer that's nearly 50 years.

And I usually do topics that are,

I rarely do the same thing twice.

I don't know why that is,

but,

anyway, I like to jump around

and do different kinds of things.

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