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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Painting By Numbers: How Do We Put a Price on Art?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 16 June 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Who decides the value of a piece of art? And how do they come to their conclusions? In May, Andy Warhol’s 'Shot Sage Blue Marilyn' sold at Christie’s for a record £158 million, making it the most expensive painting of the 20th century – but it is merely the biggest wave in an international tsunami of art sales. Jelena Sofronijevic speaks to Mary-Alice Stack, Chief Executive at Creative United, and Erling Kagge, polar explorer, former politician, and author of A Poor Collector's Guide to Buying Great Art, to discuss placing a value on creativity.  “The price is reflective of the market, not the value of the artwork.” – Mary-Alice Stack “Now, we don't talk about art, we talk about the art market,” – Erling Kagge “Art fairs are the least best place to buy an artwork.” – Mary-Alice Stack “There was a time when galleries felt like the preserve of the moneyed classes.” – Mary-Alice Stack “There's a sense that if you need to ask the price, you can't afford it.” - Mary-Alice Stack  “Fantastic art is being made every day.” – Erling Kagge “The auction houses are competing against themselves.” – Mary-Alice Stack  “What matters to artists is the creation of the work in the first place.” – Mary-Alice Stack  https://www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Jelena Sofronijevic. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Jade Bailey. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://uk.gestalten.com/products/erling-kagge-buying-great-art  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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things that people don't need to have. So said Andy Warhol, an artist well known for his

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obsession with fame and celebrity and in May his shot sage Blue Maryland sold at

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Christie's for a record 158 million pounds making it the most expensive painting

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of the two billion sold in two weeks in New York alone.

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So as Art Basel, an international set of simultaneous art fairs,

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opens today, who decides the value of any individual artwork?

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And can we make the art world less murky and open to all?

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To discuss all of this I'm delighted to be joined by two special guests. Mary Alice Stack is chief executive

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at Creative United, a UK social enterprise that runs the own art scheme.

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