Pain, Wisdom and Mercy

Honestly with Bari Weiss

The Free Press

Society & Culture, News

4.6 • 7.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2021

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Ross Douthat is a New York Times columnist, a father of four, an author . . . and also someone who lives with a tremendous amount of pain. Ross has been battling chronic Lyme disease since 2015. It's a disease that doesn’t officially exist, but it managed to bring this otherwise healthy man to his knees. This is a conversation about something we all have or will experience: pain. How pain can distort, but also how it can clarify and humanize. In Ross's telling, pain has proven a deeply powerful teacher. Ross is one of my favorite thinkers and writers, so we also covered some of his core topics: Catholicism, populism, the future of the political right and left, the internet, and, of course, decadence. You can buy his new book, "The Deep Places," here: https://www.amazon.com/Deep-Places-Memoir-Illness-Discovery-ebook/dp/B08Y1BFFWC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:31.6	I'm Barry Weiss and this is honestly.
0:34.0	I want you to think about all of the things that you worry about in a typical day.
0:42.0	Traffic, running late. worry about
0:45.0	how you look, the anger that gets stoked when you check social media apps.
0:51.0	The day in and day out annoyances that you feel toward the people in your life, even people you love,
0:57.0	your spouse leaving their socks on the floor.
1:00.0	Maybe there's some drama at work that can feel so big in the moment.
1:05.0	And now I want you to think about the last time that you were in serious pain.
1:11.0	Maybe it was a throbbing serious pain.
1:16.0	Maybe it was a throbbing toothache.
1:21.0	Maybe it was a cramp in your stomach that had you doubled over. Maybe it was a headache that made you hide from the light. Think
1:28.3	about if that pain was suddenly back right now and about how in that pain all of those previous negative feelings and
1:37.1	annoyances are revealed for what they really were all along.
1:40.9	Nitz, frivolous, and beside the point.
1:48.8	Pain can be very clarifying, it can be humanizing, and as awful as it is, pain can be a powerful teacher.
1:57.0	Today I'm speaking with the man who has earned my vote for the best columnist at the New York Times
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