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Renewing Your Mind

Pain and Suffering

Renewing Your Mind

Ligonier Ministries

Religion & Spirituality, Reformed, Study, Jesus, Preaching, Christianity, Scripture, Spirit, Bible, Holy, Theology, Christian, God, Teaching

4.84.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In life’s darkest hours, we must remember that the Lord is working for our good even when He permits Satan to do his worst. Today, Derek Thomas looks to the book of Job and discusses questions of pain and suffering.

Get Derek Thomas’ teaching series The Book of Job on DVD, plus lifetime digital access to all 12 video messages and the digital study guide, for your donation of any amount. We’ll also send you R.C. Sproul’s booklet Why Is There Evil?: https://gift.renewingyourmind.org/4090/donate
 
Live outside the U.S. and Canada? Request digital access to The Book of Job video teaching series and study guide, plus the ebook by Dr. Sproul, with your gift of any amount: https://www.renewingyourmind.org/global
 
Meet Today’s Teacher:
 
Derek Thomas is a Ligonier Ministries teaching fellow and Chancellor’s Professor of Systematic and Pastoral Theology at Reformed Theological Seminary.
 
Meet the Host:
 
Nathan W. Bingham is vice president of ministry engagement for Ligonier Ministries, executive producer and host of Renewing Your Mind, and host of the Ask Ligonier podcast.

Renewing Your Mind is a donor-supported outreach of Ligonier Ministries. Explore all of our podcasts: https://www.ligonier.org/podcasts

Transcript

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0:00.0

Nothing happens outside of the decreative will of Almighty God.

0:05.2

If you believe in that kind of sovereignty, then sickness is a part of that plan and purpose.

0:11.7

Christians get cancer.

0:13.5

Christians get dementia.

0:15.5

Christians lose limbs.

0:17.7

God's people.

0:18.7

The choicest of God's people, the choicest of God's people.

0:21.6

How should we respond when pain and suffering comes our way?

0:29.6

What does suffering teach us about God?

0:31.6

And why do some use suffering to accuse God of either not being good or not being all-powerful.

0:38.7

Over the next few days on renewing your mind, you'll hear messages from Derek Thomas'

0:43.4

practical and pastoral series in the book of Job, a book that provides great wisdom and

0:49.3

insight into the question of suffering. If you'd like to study, the entire 12 message series

0:55.7

will send it to you, along with R.C. Sprawl's book,

0:58.8

Why is There Evil?

1:00.4

When you give a donation of any amount at renewingyourmind.org,

1:04.5

you'll also receive digital access to the messages and the study guide.

1:08.9

To address the topic of pain and suffering, here's Dr. Thomas in the book of Job.

1:16.8

Well, turn with me to Job chapter 2, and we'll read the opening verse together. Again, there was a day

1:25.1

when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord,

1:29.3

and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord.

1:35.3

Back in chapter 1, Satan came into God's presence.

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