Page Turner: Spencer Schneider on Writing His Way Out of ‘School’
A Little Bit Culty
Sarah Edmondson & Anthony “Nippy” Ames
4.6 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 27 June 2022
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
“We were invisible. We had to be. We took an oath of absolute secrecy. We never even told our immediate families who we were. We went about our lives in New York City. Just like you. We were your accountants, money managers, lawyers, executive recruiters, doctors. We owned your child’s private school and sold you your brownstone. But you’d never guess our secret lives, how we lived in a kind of silent terror and fervor. There were hundreds of us.”
That’s a snippet from Spencer Schneider’s compelling and creepy AF memoir: Manhattan Cult Story: My Unbelievable True Story of Sex, Crimes, Chaos, and Survival. This isn’t an ad, it’s just the truth: We think you’re going to want to grab yourself a copy before you hit the beach this summer. It’s that much of a page turner. In this episode of A Little Bit Culty, Spencer joins us to share more about what it was like living inside the nightmarish bubble of ‘School’, the ultra-secret Manhattan organization that consumed his life for 23 years. And just in case you’ve not heard of ‘School’, this particular culty shitshow gives us Eyes Wide Shut vibes with sprinklings of Eloise if she lived at The Plaza in the Upside Down. For extra credit, read up on the late Sharon Gans, the eccentric School leader whose cult resume lowlights include: forced adoptions, arranged marriages, twisted displays of public humiliation and conspicuous consumption, and forced labor. Glad you got the hell out of there, Spencer.
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| 0:00.0 | The views and opinions expressed by a little bit culty are those of the hosts |
| 0:04.1 | and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. |
| 0:08.1 | Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors |
| 0:12.1 | are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, |
| 0:17.6 | business individual, anyone or anything. |
| 0:20.1 | Welcome to a little bit culty, a podcast about what happens when something that seems like |
| 0:34.4 | a great thing at first goes to the dark side and takes you with it. |
| 0:38.4 | I'm your host, Sarah Edminson. |
| 0:40.2 | And I'm also your host, Anthony Ames, aka Nippy. |
| 0:43.2 | Sarah and I met, fell in love in a, quote, self-help organization that turned out to be |
| 0:47.6 | a mega cult cult nexium. |
| 0:50.4 | Heard of it? |
| 0:51.4 | We got out of there together and on our way out, we helped shut it down. |
| 0:54.9 | Our journey as nexium whistleblowers was captured in detail in a docu-series called the |
| 0:58.6 | VOW on HBO and also on the front page of a newspaper. |
| 1:02.6 | New York Times, babe. |
| 1:03.6 | Right. |
| 1:04.6 | Have you heard of it? |
| 1:05.6 | Each week on a little bit culty, we talk with other former cult members and whistleblowers |
| 1:09.6 | plus experts in things like cultic abuse and coercive control. |
| 1:13.8 | She also turned the mic over to advocates and clinicians with wisdom to share on recovering |
| 1:17.8 | from everything from MLMs and toxic religion to bad romances with raging narcissists. |
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