Loptholth radio.

Hello and welcome to Psychic Teachers.

I'm your host Deb Bowen and I am delighted and honored to have with me tonight my friend Joe.

Hi Joe.

Hi Deb, thanks for having me.

Honey, thank you for doing this show with me tonight. Samantha is off on away this week.

And so Joe and I decided to do tonight's show because it's one of the suggestions that we had from a listener who said,

help me understand these terms.

And I have to be honest, I have to tell you, my response to her was you're going to have me burned at the stake.

That's really what I wrote her back.

Because there are so many different ways of looking at these terms.

And as we get into talking about them, we'll elaborate on some of that.

So thank you also very much for joining us and being with us tonight.

We don't have a stone of the night because Samantha, that's usually her thing.

And Joe said he got so wrapped up in doing research for tonight's show that he didn't play on one.

And I'm certainly, and that's fun.

And I'm certainly not the rock girl, although I will tell you that Iolite and Vivianite are two stones that are connected with witchcraft specifically and with working with witches, but there are tons of other stones.

So we'll just, we'll not go there with the stone tonight.

But it did pick an animal of the night for our discussion.

And you know, what's the obvious animal that you would think that might be connected with tonight's show, Joel?

Who?

Who?

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