Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to quickly tell you about some others.

My name's Andy Martin and I'm the editor of a team of podcast producers at the BBC in Northern Ireland.

It's a job I really love because we get to tell the stories that really matter to people here,

but which also resonate and apply to listeners around the world.

And because the team is such a diverse range of skills and strengths.

We have trained journalists, people who love digging through archives,

we've got drama and even comedy experts.

We really can do those stories justice.

So if you like this podcast, head to BBC Sounds where you'll find

plenty more fascinating stories from all around the UK.

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

So as we know, Jimmy, we'll be hanging up his spikes soon.

Definitely in terms of playing for England, we haven't heard the rest of it. We don't know.

We don't know. The rest is still unwritten.

The first test...

The first test.

test.

What musical reference, this is interesting, what musical reference was that for you?

Stoj strama futures unwritten.

Okay, for me it was Natasha Bellian Field unwritten.

Okay? So that's interesting. That just shows how many bases we have

covered on this podcast. And a good sporting metaphor that was. It's a

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