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Red Lines

Pact Hunch

Red Lines

BBC

Government

4.478 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Mark & guests discuss Northern Ireland's electoral pacts of the past and present.

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0:00.0

There's been a lot of talk in recent days about a unionist pact at the next assembly election.

0:04.6

The DUP leader fuelled that speculation through comments he made to the Belfast Telegraph at the weekend,

0:10.0

though he never actually used the word pact.

0:13.0

So when is a pact not a pact, maybe more of an informal arrangement or understanding?

0:19.1

And do pacts work anyway for unionists or nationalists?

0:22.8

John Tong, are Pacts here a sensible idea or the road to nowhere?

0:27.5

The road to nowhere in terms of an assembly election, there's absolutely no way that

0:31.9

Doug B to UUP will step aside to help the DUP or vice versa. So it's an understanding, it's an arrangement.

0:39.3

I interpret this as a plea from Geoffrey Donaldson to try and bolster Eunice voting discipline, to stop Eunice voters straying into Alliance territory or even across the divide.

0:50.8

Suzanne Breen, we'll come on to that interview with Sir Geoffrey Donaldson in just a moment.

0:54.4

But as an opening thought, does all this chat about some kind of unity of purpose for unionism

0:59.2

hint at pure desperation in your view?

1:03.4

I don't know if it does or it doesn't.

1:07.7

Obviously, the DUP is under absolutely massive pressure. Would it be so keen on

1:13.7

voting arrangements? If it was way ahead in the polls, I don't know, it might be treating its

1:19.6

opponents, its unionist rivals with contempt. In terms of pact, it's a word, obviously, that

1:25.8

inspires very powerful emotions in Northern Ireland.

1:28.8

It's a very loaded word. Do pacts work? Yes, sometimes they do. Other times they don't.

1:35.3

And I think we have to remember that there are proper official pacts where candidates withdraw in Westminster elections.

1:42.8

But then there's also the Nod and the Wink Pact

1:44.9

where a party runs a paper candidate, a very weak candidate, so as not to take votes away

1:51.6

from the candidate that it really wants to see winning the seat.

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