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What is up, Packers, friends?

Welcome into an all-new episode of the Pack-A-Poday podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL.

I'm joined once again by the great Paul Brettel.

You can find him on Twitter at Paul underscore Brettel.

Of course, you can find them on ESPN lacrosse as well. Paul, it is great to be back

chatting with you. How are you doing, my friend? I'm excellent, Andy. Always happy to be here

talking Packers football with you. I am sad that our time, you know, week to week is coming to an end here. It'll be, I'm sure, 20, 25 season before you know it. I know both you and I,

and I think everyone else that has covered the team is ready for a little R&R, a little bit of

recharging to the batteries, just a little bit. So that stuff's important as well. But before we get

there, we've got a lot to discuss as we kind of look at this team in the rear view, unfortunately, not breaking down Packers' lines as we would like to be doing. But I want to start

today, Paul, with what just kind of happened earlier today, which was with Matt LaFleur's

season-ending press conference. I would argue, not to sort of spoil your thunder here, but that it

wasn't the most non- or it was, there's a fairly nondescript, uh, end of season press conference.

I think he probably went for like 40,

45 minutes.

So wasn't that there necessarily wasn't the opportunity,

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