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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome into an all new episode of the Pack of Day podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL.

You know our amazing guest.

She's the one and only Carmen Vitale.

You can find her, of course, on Fox Sports.

You can find her on Twitter at Carmie V, and you can find her here every single week on the Pack

of Day podcast.

Carmen, welcome back. How the heck of your holiday has been treating you? It's been hectic, a lot of family in town. It's the, I don't know

what day it is week. So I appreciate having this podcast because I know I do this podcast on Thursdays.

It's Thursday. It is Thursday. We were just talking offline. It's, This is the hectic time of year. We've got holidays

going on. It's just, it's chaos. There's only a few weeks left in the season. Of course,

until we get to playoffs. But it's so fun at the same time. And there's only a precious few of

these games left remainder on the remaining schedule. Obviously, a lot going on in Packerland.

And I want to start there first because we of of course, have been on, you know,

DefCon, whatever, I don't know, low numbers or high numbers are good or bad for DefCon.

But whatever it is, we've been in crazy town with all the Jaya Alexander conversation over the course of the past couple weeks.

He, of course, is suspended for this game against the Minnesota Vikings,

which is a must win game for the Packers.

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