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Welcome to everybody to another edition of the Pack A Day podcast.

Thanks again for joining us today.

My name is Dan Connick.

And joining me today is the person who, I guess, for the last couple of years,

I have gotten to spend almost every single heartbreaking loss that the Matliflure Packers have given us, I've gotten the chance to talk with her about.

So I guess, Janelle, I'm going to call you my unofficial Packers therapist because I feel

like you and I have gone through multiple therapy sessions together after huge Packer losses.

Janelle Mackie is with me.

Janelle, are you, are you okay with that term?

We can kind of therapy each other through our episodes each week.

Yeah, I mean, that seems to be.

We get really unlucky with a lot of these games.

I mean, some of the games that we've had to, I mean, whether it's a Monday night game,

we have to record right after.

We just have gotten so unlucky with some of these games. But yeah, I mean,

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