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This is the Pack-a-Day podcast.

It's been half a month since the Green Day Packers played.

But it's Game Day, baby.

Welcome, it's the Pack-ay podcast, your Monday edition.

I'm Alex Grope from ESPN Madison, joined alongside not my usual partners,

but the one and only Jacob Westendorf of Packer Report and Game on Wisconsin fame.

Jacob, this game feels very odd to me, right?

Because it's mid-December.

It feels like this should have been such a big game, the reigning Super Bowl champions and the reigning number one seat in the

NFC. But I don't know that it matters a ton. And I'll get into my optimistic spin on everything

a little bit because I do still have like a small dosage of optimism that the Packers can make the playoffs.

I don't know why I do.

I just do.

But this game just couldn't feel smaller to me.

I'm not like very hyped up for a Monday night football game.

Where are you at?

Yeah, I'm in the same.

It's a weird feeling.

Baker Mayfield, the last time we saw him just came on the field and was like,

didn't know names of players and was just kind of chucking and ducking. And because the Raiders are

the Raiders, it worked and they win. So you kind of have that going into this. The Packers, the last

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