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What is up Packers fans? Welcome in to an all new episode of the Packeray podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. You can find the podcast at Packet a podcast. It has been far too long since we've talked to our good friend, Paul Breddle. You can find them on social media at Paul underscore Breddle. And of course, you can find them on ESPN lacrosse doing the beat writer stuff for the

green bay packers as good as anyone can possibly do it paul it's great to be back chatting with you

how you doing my friend i'm excellent andy happy to be here with you talking packers football

yeah it's always a pleasure and i know that despite it being uh the sort of this uh you know dead

ish period of the off season uh doesn't stop us. We are talking about Packers all year-round, and you've done a tremendous job in getting a bunch of content out there that I think is really interesting and really appropriate, especially for this time of year. So I want to pick your brain on all of that stuff before we get into all of the awesome stuff that you wrote about, not that you didn't write about minicamp and OTAs as well, but I just kind of want your overarching takeaway. We haven't had the opportunity other than on the sidelines just to kind of talk about some stuff that happened at OTAs in mini camp, fairly nondescript overall. A couple of bone melting things here and there, but was there anything that just stood out to you in general about what happened at OTAs and

minicamp?

Yeah, I think the big thing for me, and obviously it's on everyone's mind, the secondary,

specifically the cornerback position.

And I wrote about this before OTAs and mini camp.

And really, I feel like during those couple of practices, handful of practices, we were able to be at, got confirmation. And that's the versatility

within the secondary is going to have to be a superpower for that unit this season. And we

saw a lot of that on display with a lot of mixing and matching, moving guys around. We know

Hobbs and Kishon Nixon can both play

inside and out at cornerback. We saw Javon Bullard playing in the nickel, playing free safety.

We know Xavier McKinney obviously brings a do-it-all presence to that safety spot. And

that ability and Jeff Halfley's ability to maximize those skill sets, I think it's going to play a key role in helping to just elevate the overall play of that group.

Because if you're Jeff Halfley and you have a lot of players who can fill different roles, that gives you a lot of flexibility game plan-wise.

You can really tailor what you're doing on a weekly basis based on who the opponent is, what they do well, what

they want to take away, you can really maximize that versatility in-game with the disguising

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