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Welcome back to an all new episode of the Packaday podcast.

I'm your host, Andy Herman.

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You know my guests already, but I'm going to introduce him anyway.

The one and only Justice Muscatah, you can find them on social media at JUMOSQ.

Of course, Acby packing company.com.

Justice, how are you on this wonderful day?

Can't complain. Still got what? company.com. Justice, how are you on this wonderful day?

Can't complain. Still got what, like almost a month of summer vacation before a news starts flying again, so enjoying it. Right before this, I was doing a podcast with Dusty Evely

as I'm recording obviously some of these in advance and justice. I talked to Dusty for like 40 minutes and I now cannot wait until September 8th or whatever it is the start of the sea. I am I am ready for football officially. I've got the itch. It's not good now. I'm going to need this thing to fast forward. Obviously, I don't want to wish away this part of the year.

We have a little bit more time with the family and things like that. But I officially have football fever now, and it's not a great thing to have at the end of June, early July. It'll be right around the corner, man. Everything's going to be a blur. It's going to be warp speed before you know it. We've got a lot to get into still. I know it is again, kind of the quiet period, but I have a lot of things that I want to dig into.

You've put out some great articles recently and also want to just talk some other stuff that's buzzing around the internet. I want to start with this conversation about Matt LaFleur, not being a top 10 head coach in the NFL. Of course, as people are listening to this,

it's probably going to be a few days since this was a conversation point. But PFF put out a top 10 list of coaches, top coaches in the league, I guess. And Matt LaFleur was not on that list of 10.

I'll just start there. What were your thoughts on him not being included?

Is he a top 10 coach? Is Kevin Stefansky worthy of being number 10? How do you want to go through

this? Yeah, so Rich wrote that up for us at APC. And I thought he did a pretty good job,

kind of like breaking down What was going on.

I'm a little surprised.

I'd probably have them as a top 10 coach.

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