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Welcome back to another episode of the Pack of Day podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL. I cannot tell you how good it is to be back talking with the one and only Mike Wall. You can follow him on Twitter at Mike Wall 68. Mike, it's been a hot second. How the heck have you been?

Doing great, Andy, doing great looking forward to uh the upcoming

i guess off season now and all the all the banter that goes with the draft and whatnot so good to talk

to you it's a beautiful time of year we all get super excited about draft time hope springs eternal

every team in in the NFL is excited in some way shape or form uh what's your sort of uh you know

draft routine as we get closer and

closer to the draft here? Yeah, I'll be honestly, I think we've talked about this before. I'm not a

mock draft guy at all. Right. It's a, it's a phenomenal amount of work to play roulette with

that many people. And I do like to look. I like watching tape.

So I'll watch tape on guys that are in different positions and kind of go through a handful

of people.

But as far as putting it all together and playing GM, I leave that for the people who are just

diehard passionate about it.

And I'll just see what plays out afterwards here.

I don't know that I will watch more than 30 minutes of the

draft when draft day actually hits. Gotcha. I can understand that, especially like you said,

some of the pre-work that goes in and just watching some of these guys. It's fun. I always enjoy,

you know, when you've done the pre-work and you've watched some of these guys, then sort of

seeing how the day transpires and who ends up where and specifically

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