20 minutes a day, 365 days a year.

This is the Pack a Day podcast.

What is up, everybody? Welcome into this all new episode of the Packaday podcast. I'm your host, Andy Herman. You can follow me on Twitter at Andy Herman NFL, a semi-bitter sweet episode today. I guess for a couple different reasons. One, the Packers are eliminated, of course, too, because this is our last Mike Wall episode of the season. I'm sure we'll touch base a couple times during the offseason. But Mike, it's been phenomenal having you all season long. Thank you so much for doing this. Welcome back. How that could be been. Another great week. This is my favorite. If you're a football guy, I think the the AFC and FC championship weekend is the best weekend of football of the entire year, even though the Packers aren't playing. So I'm looking forward to this weekend.

Obviously, we've got a lot of talk about with regards to Green Bay, but I'm always excited about this weekend in particular when it comes to the NFL.

Yeah, I love this one too. Super Bowl always seems a little bit commercially, and it just doesn't always feel quite like the normal game that that's played but yeah go ahead 57,500 for tickets in uh for the for the game in in in las

Vegas I think the cheapest I want to say the cheapest seats are somewhere somewhere in the rafters

for like seven grand now so just like what you just said is is exactly why I think players and and you know diehard fans

NFC NFC championship's the best because it's just gotten too much there's you know there's just

too much concern about who's playing at halftime now yeah no I'm with you there it feels like

the most competitive football there's not like a bazillion commercial breaks it's just I don't

know it I'm with you with it's an amazing week of football. I can't wait for it. Two really fun games as well. We'll get into that in the end. I want to start a little bit after the Packers 49ers game, specifically with some of the moves that Green Bay has made this week, starting with the direction that they've decided to go in, moving on from Joe Barry. First of all, just your thoughts on the decision to move on from Joe Barry,

and then we can kind of go into what's next after that.

I wasn't surprised by it.

You never want to call for somebody's job,

and you like the kind of upticket performance they had over the last couple of weeks.

Like every other week, you can kind of point to some things.

Like, does Debo Samuel worth 10, 14 points in that game?

What does that look like if you're 34 or 38 points in that last one?

But the overall underperformance of that side of the football for the last couple years,

I think once you get in the hot seat,

regardless of externally in the hot seat, I'm not necessarily matters, but I know in that

building, you know, if you start feeling like you're in the hot seat, it's only a matter of time.

...